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Irisin Hormone Could Lead To ‘Exercise Pill’
 
What are your thoughts about this new found hormone..
 
Is this another fad diet pill or the real deal??

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/01/12/exercise-pill-irisin_n_1202672.htm-
l?1326401107&ncid=mobile14

New article by Charles Poliquin!! He talks about Irisin
 
New Hormone “irisin”Found Improve Insulin
 
 
http://www.muscledog.com/blog/view/592/NEW_HORMONE_IRISINFOUND_IMPROVE_INSULIN#
 
 
READ!
  

sounds promising, but as with any other compound i’m sure there couldn’t ever be a pill that would make it so your body wouldn’t have to work out. as Charles pointed out in his blog, despite the fact that distance running raises irisin levels, you still get skinny fat people and people that run don’t seem to lose as much fat as those that do resistance training. in the same way, simply taking the pill may help with insulin control and improve your health, but it isn’t going to magically solve all your problems and make it so that you don’t have to exercise. there could be other parts to the equation that the research isn’t showing yet, and perhaps irisin doesn’t work as effectively without some other compound produced by exercise, or something along those lines. 

when push comes to shove, people are always going to look for the quick fix, but i don’t think there will ever be one, no matter how far we advance our knowledge of technology and science.

 
That last little sentence is what sums up everything for me. This can, and will, create “skinny fat people.” Skinny on the outside but fat and out of shape on the inside haha! Nah, I don’t mean that as literal as it sounds. However, exercising obviously is always going to be paramount. You know, it does look positive, but, I am verh hesitant to believe these sort of things after all these years of just plain seeing them get shot down …every.single.time.

i agree with both of you guys.. its not like we didnt know exercise will help you lose fat.. know hey just have a fany name for it lol..
 
botton line
 
 if you just do cardio you will not burn as much fat and build muscle..
 
Weight training help with body composition more so then steady state cardio
 
if you do any type of exericse it will help you lose weight compared to no exercise
 
there is NO magic pill.. you have to weight train, add high intensity cardio and some steady state, follow a balanced healthy diet geared towards your goals
 
Supplement as just an aid.. they are not the magic pill
 
 
THATS ALL! just because they put a fancy name to a fat loss hormone its not like it changes anything
 
if they make irisin supplements it will just be an aid for fat loss.. it wont be the magic pill.. you still have to weight train add cardio if needed and eat clean..
 
 

well, to be fair to the researchers and authors of the article, supplementing directly with hormones can be effective in certain cases. Kobe Bryant and Alex Rodriguez are two very famous cases of using a form of hormonal therapy to treat ailments, having visited Peter Wehling in Germany to get a procedure known as Regenokine where they draw blood, spin it in a centrifuge to isolate specific growth factors and hormones, and then pump it into the ailing area. there is also the obvious case of taking pills or capsules of melatonin, which is the actual hormone, which we showed in a recent article to be effective. this could very well show similar results, and you won’t ever know until it is thoroughly reserached and tested, but it certainly sounds promising. as i said before though, you just don’t know about the other potential factors that could be involved. this could very well be a great fat loss solution, but not solve any of the other health problems inherent with diabetes and obesity if you aren’t addressing the roots of the problem.

This stuff sounds crazy! Every year it seems like they are making more and more important breakthroughs. You have to wonder if they are ever going to be able to actually know exactly how every biochemical process in our bodies work! O_o

I agree with you guys, there won’t ever be a magic pill like they used to show on the Jetson’s cartoons, although science and technology are starting to sound more and more like typical science fiction every day. I bet if they did make a pill of this stuff that it would be super expensive! People would probably still pay for it though, considering how much money they pay for personal trainers and supplements and infomercial toys that don’t work! ^_^

Both of you bring up great points and it is really amazing how all these break through are coming out… science and technology are rally kicking it up a notch… that growth hormone theorpy for healing injuries sounds amazing.. I wish it was more common and not only the RICH could benefit from it… maybe in 10 years it will be more common.
 
I still don’t think there is a magic pill however as i said all these scientific breakthroughs will help aid our health and fitness goals…
 
I feel like science is getting closer to truly understand the body… HOWEVER people have to realize that everyone is different and there is no cookie cutter approach from every person.
There are some people that have trouble gaining weight and muscle and others that pack it on.
 
There are those that have food intolerances or handle carbs/fats better then others… everyone is different and have different goals, bodies, and motivation levels…  

 
Very, very good points here. I think this probably stems from the lack of knowledge on what are classified as “hormones” as well. Many people would never consider what was done with Kobe and others to be similar to what is being suggested here.
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How many of you have taken a diet pill before? Have you taken one before llulko? I know I Have tried a bunch before - Hydroxycut for quite a while. Although, I now feel like I Have had the best year of working out switching to pre-workout drinsk as opposed to just taking fat burners.

i agree with you.. i dont even fully understand hormones.. i think if i had a better understanding i would reach my goals faster.
 
i tried taking a fat burner for about a week.. it was just not for me.. i just did not feel right and i didnt want to be dependent on them so i just stopped.. i got it for free so i figured “why not”
 
i rather go the natural route.. healthy food and weight room.. in the end thats what really counts.. i dont want play around and mess with my body.. i never tried hydroxycut or anything else..
 
I think its a great idea to learn more abotu hormones however everone is different.. how do i monitor mine and make it work for me?

 
Phoenix Pharmaceuticals is offering various forms of Irisin, as of 4/16.  Are they reputable for genuine products and purity, or do you think this is scammish?

https://www.phoenixpeptide.com/catalog/pnxfoget.php?id=pnxnews_000000744&title=Compou-
nd&sum=Function&gclid=CN_m9bv_ya8CFUbe4AodD3xGYw

The study was done on a mouse… I would not trust anything until i saw clinically proven and tested studies done on humans with this new found drug…
I am curious to see if it will go mainstream in the future… it does not seem harmful and does not process magical weight loss (meaning you have o exercise and eat a healthy diet in order to see the effects of this drug…
 
I still would like to see HUMAN studies
 
Are they prescribing this drug?

That research paper is from Bruce Speiglemans lab, arguably the
“hottest” lab in the world when it comes to metabolism and biology. The
research is very good, however it is nowhere near clinical trials in
humans. His lab is “basic” science only lab, the most basic type of
biological science there is. So I would say, yes it is an awesome
discovery. But no human should be taking a synthetic form yet.
Especially Asia is a peptide hormone, it will breakdown in the stomach
and gi tract. So would need to either be injected as they did into mice,
or modified so that it could be taken orally.  


I am not sure about the company pointed to, Phoenix Pharmaceuticals. Bruce’s lab
is basically owned by one of the large pharma companies, they get first
rights to all of his discoveries in return for funding the lab
generously.

thanks for your insite pete!  great info to know

They only offer it, no one has yet prescribed it.  I imagine, as Pete suggests, that it would need to be injectected, in some unkown quantity. Here’s hoping for human trials soon!

whaty are your thoughts about this pill Dan?