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What are your thoughts about working out the same muscle group even if it still feels sore from your previous workout??

Some of our training sessions leave you sore for a week you need to appropriately stretch the muscle. Again I will say with most groups bands stretch them well. You do however need to make sure that you are spreading the workouts out we prefer 72 hours per group.
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Butch

It isn’t unusual for me to still be sore from training the wheels for a full week. When ever I’ve slacked a little the week before, I PAY BIG TIME, the next week! I just work through it. Some times my forearms and bi’s can be sore when doing guns from back training 4 days before. Again, I just train through it.

I believe that one shoudl always train when sore.  Ideally, one SHOULD always be a little sore and stiff.  Not bad sore, if you train frequently and are in decent shape, that rarely happens, thats usually only for the once a week per muscle group crowd, but, just a bit stiff, etc.  Like you did something yesterday.

What about training when you are tight in the lower back?

This is a good question… If my lower back is tight/sore and I am training legs I try to be very careful with the exercises I choose…

 For example, I will avoid, front squats, dead lifts, pile squats, and over head squats.

I try to pick exercises were I do not rely too much on my lower back and core stability…

 Training your lower back or other muscle group for that matter while being sore or tight is very dangerous.  You may sacrifice good form, lose stability, compensate other muscle groups, pull or strain a muscle, ligament, or tendon and seriously injure yourself.  There are always other alternative exercises to hit/target the same muscle group.

 

If it just soreness, train through it.  If its tight…  warm up extra good then train.  If its actually injured, then thats another thing…

I think the greatest saying about soreness is there is a severe difference between working out hurt and working out injured. It pretty much says fight through the pain that gives you an excuse to pull out of the workout, and stop training if you have a serious injury

I wait until the soreness is gone. I think the healing processing is complete at that time and the muscle has adjusted the training stress by growth.  Once the soreness is gone more stress can be imposed on the muscle being trained. 

 

This seems to be popular in bodybuilding, but is an unheard of idea outside of bodybuilding.  Pretty much any strength athlete is going to be training sore on a continual basis.

Plus, if you really want to wait till the “healing p rocess” is complete, you need to go about 6 weeks between workouts.  Thats about how  long the complete tissue remodeling process takes in response to a heavy workout.  Soreness is not an accurate indicator of much at all when it comes to the muscle and the condition its in.

Wouldn’t that increase your cortisol levels by not giving your muscles rest..
 
I heard that if your stress hormone is high your body will have a hard time burning fat, building muscle and gaining strength..
 
How is Olympic lifting different then body building when it comes to hormone function???

My approach to waiting for muscles to recover from soreness has worked for me through the years. I’m 61 years old and I had maintained a large percent of the muscle mass I gained from training in my late 30s and through my 40’s.  I learned as a sprinter in college you should not try to obtain maximum performance from a sore muscle.  I think of my weight training the same about as sprinting.  I could not run at my  best speed with sore legs.  I cannot train at my best with sore muscles.  Soreness is an indicator they are not at their best for maximum performance. That is what I want when training,  maximum performance.
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The biggest difference is drugs.  Bodybuilding is a sport without drug testing, and a sport that couldnt exist without drug abuse.  Because of widespread abuse of drugs, and universal abuse at the top levels, training for BB has followed a trend that is different from athletes that get drug tested and need to work with their natural endocrine system.

BB training and the training of any athlete who has to be drug tested is simply two completely different situations.

 
Adequate eating and sleeping is the best road for recovery I think.  If you don’t adequately feed yourself good food and don’t sleep enough or properly, you won’t recover right?  Now, I don’t know too much about the physiology so I won’t claim too much, but the ONLY way to get stronger and/or more fit is through adequate sleeping and eating.  “Adequate” can mean eating and sleeping way more than average people, but adequate none the less. :o)
 
 

  
  
xfitrob.. what about taking off days from the gym.. Not just sleeping??
 
I was talking about muscle recovery and working out the same muscle group within 24-48 hours…